Our Citroen C1 (29 June 2007)
Our Citroen C1 1.0i Vibe E4 5 door
After looking at a number of small city cars including the Nissan Micra and the Peugot 107 we were offered a deal at the Citroen dealer on the C1 which was the best so far. A problem was the need for a 5 door hatchback, there were lots of 3 doors on offer but the C1 was the best 5 door.
We picked the car up on Friday 29 June and I was initially impressed with the general driving experience. The car was lively and responded well even with 4 adults in it. The variable valve technology of the 3 cylinder engine making it quick and it pulled well up the local hills with a load on board.
It came with a full tank of petrol and this lasted until Saturday 14 July when I put £10.00 worth of petrol in, there was a problem with the paying system at the filling station and I only had £10.00 cash on me. The mileage reading was 221 miles.
Clare has been using the car to go to work every day for the past three weeks and she has been very pleased with it. The only problem was the size of the boot which meant that some of her boxes she takes to and from school had to go on the back seat, but that gradually became less of a problem has she got used to it.
When I have been driving it the C1 has been really fun and easy to drive as compared to the Landy but then again you would expect that. Strangley I feel safe in the Citroen, more so than I did in the Rover 100 after driving the Landrover.
I filled up with petrol again on Saturday 21 July, it took just over 31 litres for £30.69 with a mileage reading of 287. I intend to keep a spreadsheet of these figures.
The petrol seemed to be lasting ages, it was Sunday 5 August when I next filled up. 30 litres for £28.19 with a mileage reading of 613 (327).
On Sunday 9 September we took our son to Manchester Airport, the longest journey in the Citroen for the last few weeks so it returned a good fuel consumption figure when I filled it up on Monday 10 September.
In January 2008 we went to Wales twice for fairly long runs in excess of 200 miles so these figures should be quite good. The rest of the time its just town driving.
On 2 February 2008 I filled the car up with premium petrol, this may have been by accident!!
Anyway we'll see what the fuel consumption works out at this week.
Filled up again on 12 February. We had been on a run to the Memorial Arboretum near Lichfield so the MPG of about 46 does not seem that much better if at all than when using normal petrol.
There was a couple of runs to Shrewsbury and back up to the 18th February, and I was particularly careful with my right foot. This seems to have paid off with the MPG of over 57.
Back to just short town runs for the last two weeks so the fuel consumption up to 3 March 2008 was not quite as good.
We had a trip to Snowdon on April 6th 2008 so this run helped the fuel consumption to reach 53.67 mpg.
After owning this car for a year we are still very impressed with it. For such a small car the space inside has been more than ample even with four adults in it. Obviously for long journeys it's more comfortable with just two but we have made a number of journeys with 3 in and included picnics during day-trips.
I went to Manchester airport on Friday 20 June to pick up relatives from California so the Citroen petrol tank was filled a bit early this time.
We went for a run into Wales on Sunday 20 July, then to the airport again on 27 July and 1st August so I suppose these runs account for the good mpg of 58.9 miles per gallon.
On 17th September 2008 the garage had a problem so I had to pay cash and I only had £10.00 on me, so the details for that fill are combined with the 21 September 2008 to give the fuel consumption figures.
Went a trip to the Lake District on 28th October 2008 with three people in the car and averaging just under 70 mph on the M6 motorway, this trip and a trip to Manchester airport only resulted in a fuel consumption of 49 mpg which was a bit disappointing. We will have to repeat the same or similar motorway run with two people and a lower average speed and see what happens then.
The fuel consumption on January 22 was a bit disappointing then I noticed it was much the same last year at this time and it's colder this year, so I suppose it's not too bad. A lot of short journeys this last week or so wouldn't help either.
The fuel consumption is still not very good, but I suppose the short journeys and the very cold weather and snow haven't helped that much.
February 20 2009 and the weather seems to be warming up a little, I have also tried to lighten up on the accelerator pedal, this seems to have helped the fuel consumption some what.
May 20 2009, I received a confirmation text message from Evans Halshaw about the service which is booked for Tuesday 9 June at 9:00 am, that seems like a good idea.
June 1st 2009, we went on a trip to Severn Valley Railway at Bridgenorth today, the fuel level indicator showed 3 bars and it made it there and back without needing to put fuel in. I eventually filled it at the local BP station.
July 3 2009, I rang the Citroen parts and ordered roof bars for the C1 at a cost of £56.00 plus VAT. That seems a bit better than the Halfords version which worked out at over £120.00.
We went to Kent for a holiday from 25 July to 1 August 2009
During our week in Kent the Citroen C1 was used daily for some fairly long excursions and returned better fuel consumption than I expected.
Although the Citroen C1 problems have been few, a problem with the key which is used to open the doors as well as for the ignition, started gradually over the last few months. It got so bad that it wouldn't open the drivers door, it was difficult to open the hatch but seemed ok on the passenger door and in the ignition. The spare key worked fine so we have been using that. I booked the car into the dealers to see what could be done.
The mechanic came to me and said he had come across some article that referred to corrosion in the door locks which also then affected the key. So the C1 will go back this week to have new locks fitted.
The new locks were duly fitted and the keys replaced, all under warranty.
March 2011 Clutch problem
This month after over 27 thousand miles we noticed the clutch slipping occasionally. When you were going up a hill and pressed the accelerator pedal there was an increase in engine revs but the car didn't seem to move as quick as it had before. This gradually got worse over a couple of weeks. I decided to have a look on the Internet for any information. Not suprisingly there was a lot of reports about Citroen C1, Peugeot 107 and the Toyota Aygo having clutch problems at anything from 16,000 miles to over 30,000 miles and seeing as how the clutch on most cars can last well over 100,000 miles the problem was a bit worrying.
A link to a forum about the C1 clutch
Citroen Owners Club
Auto Express forum
After reading all this and the fact that our C1 was now well out of warranty I had a go at adjusting the screww on the cable near to the gearbox. This was barely visible but I did manage to move it after using a pair of small Mole grips to start it off. This did make some difference but we decided to have a new replacement fitted to avoid the worry of it failing on longer journeys.
I use a small local garage for MOT's on my Land Rover so I asked them to do the clutch. They replaced it with the bigger one and at the same time put new front brake pads in, which I have been meaning to do since before Christmas, the whole job took just one day and cost £322.80 which I thought was very reasonable.
The next day I tried opening the bonnet to have a look but the lever was loose and didn't work, so I rang the garage who without hesitation said bring it in and they fixed it withing minutes. What had happened was that the plastic clip had partially broken where it clipped into the lever on the bonnet catch at the front of the car, so the cable was just hanging there not doing much. It looked as though this plastic thing was part of the cable kit and wouldn't be available separately so we clipped it back in place and I put a small cable tie round it for the time being, so we'll see how that goes.
We still like this car, it is fun to drive and has been extremely reliable for almost 4 years now so we do not intend to part with it just yet. The reported problems have to be seen in the context of the production of 300,000 cars a year, the millionth car was a petrol-powered, red, five-door Citroen C1 presented to Kolin Mayor Jiri Buric on December 13th 2008. Since this clutch problem hasn't made the news as widely as Toyota's sticking accelerator pedal on some of its other models, I believe that this is either an acceptable situation or not very widespread, and so not something which will change my generally good opinion of the car.
Toyota Peugeot CitroenAutomobile produces one-millionth vehicle, December 2008
|Citroen C1 fuel record|
|Date||Litres||Gallons||Cost||Cost/L||Total Mileage||Miles since last fill||MPG|
We have now owned the car for 5 years and 364 days and travelled 45054 miles at a cost of £5156.19 in fuel and £1836.75 for services/MOT and repairs. The average fuel consumption has been 46.46 miles per gallon. This fill of petrol was £1.31 per litre, that's £5.95 per imperial gallon.
The cost of £1.41 per litre of petrol on November 2nd 2012 was because it was from a garage in Wales during a run to Lake Vyrnwy.
In the middle of August 2012 a rasping noise appeared which gradually got worse although it came and went. I took the car to the garage suspecting it was the alternator or water pump and sure enough once it was on the hoist there was signs of leakage from the water pump bolts. A new one was fitted at a cost of £96.00 including parts and labour and the noise vanished.
On June 12th 2012 the Citroen C1 passed its third MOT at a cost of £216.76 plus £90.00 for two tyres.
We went for a run into Wales on Wednesday 28th December which accounts for the better than average fuel consumption of 49 mpg. The trip was on narrow winding country roads so I suppose this MPG isn't that bad really!
Since the beginning of September the P/S power steering light has been staying on for longer than it used to. By the end of October the light was staying on all the time and the steering became heavy. As at November 1st the garage has taken off the P/S ECU and is conducting tests to see if the problem is with that before commiting to changing the motor unit on the steering column, apart from that the car is fine...
The power steering ecu was faulty, a second-hand one was tried and this worked, so the repair cost £288.00 altogether including diagnostics and labour, I had heard of some costing over £700.00 so this wasn't too bad.
On Thursday 2 June 2011 the Citroen C1 passed its second MOT test at a cost of £49.00
On 28 May 2011 there was three of us and a roof box with suitcases in on a journey to Devon. We came off the M5 at junction 13 for Stroud and filled up with petrol which just took 18 litres and took the A roads through to Exeter then to Paignton. We spent 3 days in Devon with just two of us driving round and the petrol tank was filled again before we left, this fill indicates that for the 197 miles since the last fill the Citroen did 57 mpg the next fill shows a dramatic decline in the fuel consumption to 39 mpg. The reason for this was that there was now three of us in the car again and the traffic flow was such that it was easier to keep to a speed of about 70mph than a more economic one of around 60-65 mph.
The fill on 12 May 2011 was a quick stop and only £20.00 worth of petrol was put in as opposed to filling the tank, with the result that it may be a week or two before the consumption column is accurate again.
On May 1st we went to Stroud and the tank was filled at a petrol station in Stonehouse just after we came off the M5 at junction 13 where we arrived at 9:13. We had done another trip to Manchester airport as well, so these long runs account for the good fuel consumption figures.
The figure of 51.2 mpg on April 20 2011 follows a run to Manchester airport and a run to the Long Mynd in Shropshire when the weather was unusually warm, like 20C, so yet again this car seems to go further per litre of petrol in warmer weather.
The fuel consumption figure of over 58 mpg on 23 July 2010 was after a weekend trip to Caernarfon. The weather was wet but warm, petrol engines seem to like warm humid air, well I seem to get better fuel consumption at these times. There was three adults in the car and I didn't go slow so I am well pleased with the cars performance.
We went a run to Oxford on Wednesday 2 June 2010. I am always pleasantly suprised how the C1 manages to keep up with motorway traffic, easily maintaining 70 mph even with 4 adults in the car. The last fill of petrol on the list was just as we were leaving Oxford so the 120 or so mile run down improved the fuel consumption to 50MPG, I will be interested to see what the next fill shows.
Around Great Orme at Llandudno
Looking back to Snowdon on the A5 near Rhydlydan
September in Wales
Snowdon rises beyond the Citroen C1
The Citroen C1 on Black Rock Sands
Where the Citroen C1 came from
The Citroen C1 came out in 2005 as a result of Toyota wanting to break into the A-sector of the European market.
Daihatsu developed the 3-cylinder engine and the car is based on the Toyota Aygo. See the Autocar article from June 2005.
While they share a large number of structural components, parts and sub-assemblies, the Peugeot 107, Toyota Aygo and CitroenC1 each have unique body styles that express the personalities of the Peugeot, Citroenand Toyota marques.
All three vehicles measure about 3.4 meters long, 1.6 meters wide and 1.4 meters high (details in chart). Powered by the latest generation 1.0-liter gasoline and 1.4-liter diesel engines, the compact, fuel-efficient cars also feature advanced safety and environmental protection technologies. These three new models will offer an engaging driving experience in the urban environment. The cars are primarily designed for European markets, where demand for this type of entry-level vehicle is expected to increase.
Developed on a common platform, all three cars will begin rolling off the line at the Toyota Peugeot CitroenAutomobile (TPCA) plant in KolÃƒï¿½Ã‚Ân, Czech Republic in 2005. Vehicle development and plant construction have proceeded on schedule, as announced by both companies in July 2001. The plant will have an annual production capacity of 300,000 vehicles; 200,000 units for Peugeot and Citroenand 100,000 for Toyota.
The project is expected to contribute widely to the local community in terms of direct and indirect employment. It has already created 1,500 jobs at TPCA, with 1,500 more people expected to be hired for a total of 3,000. Total investment, including research and development and production start-up costs, is estimated at ÃƒÂ¯Ã‚Â¿Ã‚Â½ 1.5 billion.
This petrol engine uses a combination of technologies to deliver competitive performance, fuel economy and low emissions. A key development target was to achieve a low weight. The engine has an all-aluminium construction and features extra-slim cylinder bores. The air intake system and engine cover are integrated, while further weight-savings are made by producing some components in resin instead of metal. As a result, the engine tips the scales at 67kg, being amongst the lightest internal combustion engine's available on the car market. It is also one of the most powerful 1.0-litre engine's, producing 67bhp, and torque of up to 68 lb-ft at 3,600rpm. The Aygo will accelerate from 0-62mph in 14.2 seconds and has a top speed, where permitted, of 98mph.
Developed to provide performance well-suited to the stop-start driving common to urban areas, with higher levels of low to mid-range torque than on the 1.0-litre VVT-i engine used in the Yaris. Longer spark plugs give better anti-knock performance, in conjunction with VVT-i, which constantly adjusts valve timing to produce both high torque at low engine speeds and more power at higher revs. Reducing the number of cylinders from four to three also improves torque performance in the low to mid-range. The three-cylinder configuration also contributes to reducing the overall amount of friction, as there are fewer moving parts than in a four-cylinder engine. As a result the 1.0 Aygo achieves combined cycle fuel consumption and CO2 emissions, at 61.4mpg and 109g/km respectively.
The engine mounting system has been improved to substantially reduce the levels of noise, vibration and harshness. Instead of the conventional three-mount design, the Aygo uses a mount on each side, positioned on a line passing through the engine's centre of gravity. The third mount at the bottom of the engine compartment is replaced by a torque rod that efficiently suppresses the engine's rotational movement, reducing vibration.
Practical and easy to park, the Aygo measures 3,405mm long, making it one of the shortest four-seaters on the market, with particularly short front and rear overhangs. Add to that an ultra-narrow 4.73m turning radius to make maneuvering in traffic and fitting into parking spaces too tight for most cars. With the wheels pushed out to the corners of the body, Toyota engineers have been able to make better use of interior space and increase the car's stability at higher speeds, so it is capable on the open road, too.
The front suspension is a development of the MacPherson system used on the Yaris. It features L-shaped arms with a higher castor angle and improved anti-dive characteristics. The damping rate of the shock absorbers and the coil springs have been adjusted to deliver a good level of driving comfort.
As on Yaris, a torsion beam is deployed at the rear, but instead is designed to feature a transverse bar with an inverted 'V' profile. This brings considerable weight-saving as the anti-roll bar is integrated into the beam rather than being a separate component. A further development sees the trailing arm bushing set at an angle to the axle, creating a toe correction action.
All Aygo models are equipped with Electric Power Steering (EPS). EPS is speed-sensitive, adapting in line with data from the car's ABS speed sensors. This means the steering has a light feel at low speeds, such as when moving in city traffic or maneuvering into a parking space, and a firmer response at high speeds. EPS also yields benefits in fuel economy, being three per cent more fuel-efficient than a conventional hydraulic power steering system. This is because EPS only operates when the driver makes a steering action, whereas for hydraulic assistance the pump is permanently engaged by the engine. EPS efficiently damps impacts from the suspension, reducing the amount of kickback and vibration felt through the steering wheel.
All Aygo models are fitted with the Bosch ABS8 system with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) to ensure the best balance of front and rear braking power in all conditions. The ABS actuator is 36 per cent lighter and more compact than in previous systems. This version of Bosch's ABS features active speed sensors that are more precise than the passive type and are able to monitor low speed and reverse manoeuvres. The Aygo employs 247mm ventilated discs at the front and 200mm drums at the rear, providing ample stopping power for a vehicle that weighs only 790kg.
Shock absorbers come from KYBTrying to sort the history out.
Michelin saved Citroen after the WW2.
In 1976 Peugeot and Citroencome together.
In 1978 Chrysler sells its European operations to Peugeot-Citroen.
In 1998 Daimler-Benz and Chrysler agree to combine their businesses in a "merger of equals."